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Post by kathy4fan on Nov 2, 2015 1:03:43 GMT
Ok Guys what do you think is going to happen with Kenseth? I just do not see how Nascar is going to police this now when they are the ones that have promoted this type of racing. Boys have at it is what they are getting...
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Post by igothud on Nov 2, 2015 1:18:14 GMT
Sad thing is... Kenseth will get some type of penalty. But, I'd hope they look at the entire situation. Joey and Brad back Matt into a corner and they both paid for it. From what I heard on MRN, and Matt made reference too, was that Brad and Joey were jacking up the restarts... Kevin went to from 3rd to 6th trying to pass Brad on a restart and a restart later and Matt is trying the same move and they tangle. Penske boys were playing games it ended the day for Matt. I don't blame the guy...
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Post by tombo on Nov 2, 2015 2:08:57 GMT
they should give him a warning for now and park him the next time.
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Post by Sam4 on Nov 2, 2015 2:16:21 GMT
I don't like Lagano at all but man I have to feel for him a little bit. The incident at Kansas to me was exactly what anybody would have done in Joeys situation. He was much faster and Kenseth was driving all over the track to block and ran him up into the wall and then Joey clipped him. For Kenseth to do what he did today was absolutely uncalled for. I understand his frustration of not making it out of that round but man with the way he was blocking at Kansas that was the only way Joey was going to get around him. He should be suspended atleast for next week!
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Post by 4HARVE on Nov 2, 2015 3:08:04 GMT
It's hard for me to decide because i dont like lagano, but I think if Joey had it to do over again he would lol! It cost him the race win today and maybe a chance for a championship! Kenseth looks at the situation as if Joey didn't have to wreck him!
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Post by Greg4fan on Nov 2, 2015 3:46:18 GMT
I've been watching NASCAR since the mid 80s. This was the most disgusting and cowardly move in the history of the sport. I don't often agree with Joey, but he had Kenseth pegged.
Wrecking while racing for the lead happens occasionally like it did at Kansas, especially in this system. Today was just about blatant revenge, and that's what gets NASCAR pegged as a backward hillbilly sport (just look and listen at the fans' reaction at the track). And then Matt doesn't even have the guts to own up to what he did.
NASCAR doesn't listen to the fans but I would suspend Matt for the remainder of the season and I'd consider extending it into next season. It needs to be extremely harsh and precedent-setting.
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Post by tombo on Nov 2, 2015 4:28:37 GMT
I've been watching NASCAR since the mid 80s. This was the most disgusting and cowardly move in the history of the sport. I don't often agree with Joey, but he had Kenseth pegged. Wrecking while racing for the lead happens occasionally like it did at Kansas, especially in this system. Today was just about blatant revenge, and that's what gets NASCAR pegged as a backward hillbilly sport (just look and listen at the fans' reaction at the track). And then Matt doesn't even have the guts to own up to what he did. NASCAR doesn't listen to the fans but I would suspend Matt for the remainder of the season and I'd consider extending it into next season. It needs to be extremely harsh and precedent-setting. joey had a better car and could have easily passed kenseth but decided to not only take the win but take him out of the chase at the same time.logano got we he 100% deserved. and nascar cant park him,danica and others have been doing this all year. kenseth just brought old school back today and that's what nascar needs a lot more of.
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Post by Greg4fan on Nov 2, 2015 4:44:00 GMT
I keep hearing this is "old school," but I don't recall that type of stuff at all back in the day. Maybe Dale Sr. on DW at Richmond in 1986 but that was racing for the lead, and as I said, that stuff happens.
And there is a massive difference between what Matt did and other deliberate wrecks in "boys have at it" era - that was a damaged car multiple laps down wrecking the leader of the race. That even tops Carl's wrecking of Brad at Atlanta that should have immediately ended this kind of stuff. Is it going to take someone getting killed again?
Explain to me how Logano was supposed to get around Matt at Kansas when he was blocking him all over the track, including into the wall multiple times? Matt brought that on himself.
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Post by aricpelt on Nov 2, 2015 13:08:00 GMT
joey had a better car and could have easily passed kenseth but decided to not only take the win but take him out of the chase at the same time.logano got we he 100% deserved. and nascar cant park him,danica and others have been doing this all year. kenseth just brought old school back today and that's what nascar needs a lot more of.
You're right, he did have the faster car, and repeatedly tried to pass for multiple laps... The final time, Joey had such a run on Matt that he ended up in the wall to avoid Matt's 4 lane block... What else was he supposed to do? Just be content at running 2nd? How was he supposed to pass when the car in front of him is swerving across the entire track to keep him behind him? Matt got what he was asking for and then crybabied to the cameras and pulled a b!tch move at Martinsville. I don't like Joey at all, and I was one of the fans screaming with excitement when it happened yesterday, but that was only because I didn't want to see the 22 win... |
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Post by aricpelt on Nov 2, 2015 13:13:56 GMT
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Post by tombo on Nov 2, 2015 13:32:59 GMT
kenseth did what any driver with balls and pride would and should do.a coward would have never done anything and I believed that was what kenseth was before but after he did this it shows hes not afraid of jokey,nascar or anybody.
logano 100% wrecked kenseth not just for the win but to take kenseth out of the chase.
id expect kevin to do the same if it happens to him ever.
they were at Martinsville with 0% chance of anyone getting killed,let alone killed again.i don't recall anyone being killed as a result of payback but I could be wrong.
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Post by tombo on Nov 2, 2015 13:46:12 GMT
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Post by fouralottawins on Nov 2, 2015 16:21:14 GMT
I believe this will not end well for Matt. Too many things are going against him with the data NASCAR can take from his car.
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Post by russellb on Nov 2, 2015 20:16:37 GMT
The penski boys kept playing with fire and got burned. I didn't like the way it went down but I sure don't blame Matt. He almost did a Kyle bow prior to getting in the ambulance. lol
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Post by jake on Nov 2, 2015 20:17:09 GMT
I keep hearing this is "old school," but I don't recall that type of stuff at all back in the day. Maybe Dale Sr. on DW at Richmond in 1986 but that was racing for the lead, and as I said, that stuff happens. And there is a massive difference between what Matt did and other deliberate wrecks in "boys have at it" era - that was a damaged car multiple laps down wrecking the leader of the race. That even tops Carl's wrecking of Brad at Atlanta that should have immediately ended this kind of stuff. Is it going to take someone getting killed again? Explain to me how Logano was supposed to get around Matt at Kansas when he was blocking him all over the track, including into the wall multiple times? Matt brought that on himself. What the 24 did to Bowyer in 2012, wrecking Bowyer on purpose in a situation where the 15 still had a feasible chance, however unlikely, to win the championship, was quite similar to this. Matt was racing to keep his season alive at Kansas, and Joey was racing him with a golden ticket to the next round already in hand. That plays a lot into everything. Joey wrecked Matt on purpose to win, when he had several laps remaining to try to pass him. Joey did this KNOWING that it would END the 20 team's season. Kenseth cannot take that lying down. What Kenseth did at Martinsville was different from what Logano did at Kansas, BUT there ARE similarities. In both cases, the leader of the race was crashed on purpose by the car directly behind him entering turn 1. In both cases, the leading car's chase chances were reduced dramatically (Joey's less so than Matt's). That's where Kenseth is coming from - you wrecked me on purpose and devastated my chances on the season - and I returned the favor. All this lead lap, racing for a win bs - Joey still dumped the 20 on purpose, and you aren't going to get away with that very often against Cup veterans, like it or not. |
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