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Post by tombo on Nov 5, 2015 21:31:31 GMT
if nascar thinks 2 race suspension for purposely wrecking other drivers is fair than kyle busch should be sitting out until 2018....
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Post by Greg4fan on Nov 5, 2015 22:22:27 GMT
Suspension upheld on final appeal
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Post by russellb on Nov 5, 2015 22:38:09 GMT
Wonder how many friends Joey has in the garage.
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Post by Greg4fan on Nov 5, 2015 22:49:15 GMT
In fairness how many does Kevin have? Might be 3 and 1.
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Post by anotherharvickfan on Nov 6, 2015 0:32:23 GMT
IMO. NASCAR has been slowly spiraling downhill ever since BF took over. The economy goes up and down regardless who's in office about every 7-8 years. So I only put about a 10-15% blame on it. Ticket prices, no, yes they're not cheap, but my 6 races we go to every year hasn't gone up by more than 5 or 10 bucks per ticket. And in most cases my tickets have been the same at most tracks for a good 8-10 yrs. Even Daytona camping, it may be 585.00 bucks, but it was 575.00 6 yrs ago too.
To much change, the chase, while many like it, most people I confer with don't. They've even changed the chase 3 times already. Thier inconsistent calls and not to mention inconsistent penalties for drivers. Them eating their own words to many times. BF's comments on Matt's suspension, he basically said that non chase drivers are told to stay away from chase drivers and are told that during drivers meetings. I guess they might as well park them in September.
I'm not saying drivers should purposely wreck other drivers, unless they've been wreck, roughed up before hand what have you, the boys have at it works to a point. How long was NASCAR going to ignore what was happening to Matt before they stepped in. Obviously to long because Matt took care of it himself. NASCAR should have stepped in on the 2 and 22 messing with the restarts.
Poles.
No you can't have the fans run the series, they very rarely do. But you could take their opinions into consideration now and then. After the Martinsville race I ran across 3 different poles, was Matt's retaliation to hard, should he be suspended and did Joey deserve it. I'm sure there were more out there, the lowest pole numbers were around 25,000 total votes. One I can't remember which one had over 40,000 votes total. Needless to say they were all in favor of Matt.
Maybe NASCAR needs to put out its own pole, on all media takes, and ask the fans how they're handling this sport.
I'm done, just had to vent a little.
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Post by jeremy on Nov 6, 2015 0:43:09 GMT
if nascar thinks 2 race suspension for purposely wrecking other drivers is fair than kyle busch should be sitting out until 2018.... This is above and beyond purposely wrecking a driver, it's coming out 10 laps down, slowing down and waiting, then punting and pushing not only the race leader, but chase contender out of the race. Effectively outing him in a must win situation. NASCAR has said all along to let the championship play out naturally. Matt didn't allow that to happen, he took it in to his own hands. Early in the race as soon as he got to the 20 the first first chance he got he hit him and moved him up the track. He didn't even try to pass him clean. The 22 did not retaliate and went on his way. Once Matt got caught up in his deal and his race was over he was on a mission to end the 22s day and chase hopes. It was pre meditated and there is no place for that in this sport. Race him hard, hold him up. Rub fenders. But you can't come out 10 laps down and run I'm over. He got what he deserved. The sad part is he isn't even man enough to admit what he did, he Comes on the radeo and heed he had a flat then went on tv and said it got on the splitter and wouldn't turn. Well the video proof both of those wrong. the only reason That car didn't turn was because he didn't turn the stering wheel |
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Post by tombo on Nov 6, 2015 1:49:18 GMT
if nascar thinks 2 race suspension for purposely wrecking other drivers is fair than kyle busch should be sitting out until 2018.... This is above and beyond purposely wrecking a driver, it's coming out 10 laps down, slowing down and waiting, then punting and pushing not only the race leader, but chase contender out of the race. Effectively outing him in a must win situation. NASCAR has said all along to let the championship play out naturally. Matt didn't allow that to happen, he took it in to his own hands. Early in the race as soon as he got to the 20 the first first chance he got he hit him and moved him up the track. He didn't even try to pass him clean. The 22 did not retaliate and went on his way. Once Matt got caught up in his deal and his race was over he was on a mission to end the 22s day and chase hopes. It was pre meditated and there is no place for that in this sport. Race him hard, hold him up. Rub fenders. But you can't come out 10 laps down and run I'm over. He got what he deserved. The sad part is he isn't even man enough to admit what he did, he Comes on the radeo and heed he had a flat then went on tv and said it got on the splitter and wouldn't turn. Well the video proof both of those wrong. the only reason That car didn't turn was because he didn't turn the stering wheel if you remember right he was 10 laps down because he got wrecked racing for the lead by jokeys teammate,this time they were blocking they wrecked him. logano been wrecking people all year,you don't remember Chicago?
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Post by Greg4fan on Nov 6, 2015 2:12:54 GMT
The 41 played a major role in the wreck between the 20 and 2.
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Post by jeremy on Nov 6, 2015 2:28:40 GMT
This is above and beyond purposely wrecking a driver, it's coming out 10 laps down, slowing down and waiting, then punting and pushing not only the race leader, but chase contender out of the race. Effectively outing him in a must win situation. NASCAR has said all along to let the championship play out naturally. Matt didn't allow that to happen, he took it in to his own hands. Early in the race as soon as he got to the 20 the first first chance he got he hit him and moved him up the track. He didn't even try to pass him clean. The 22 did not retaliate and went on his way. Once Matt got caught up in his deal and his race was over he was on a mission to end the 22s day and chase hopes. It was pre meditated and there is no place for that in this sport. Race him hard, hold him up. Rub fenders. But you can't come out 10 laps down and run I'm over. He got what he deserved. The sad part is he isn't even man enough to admit what he did, he Comes on the radeo and heed he had a flat then went on tv and said it got on the splitter and wouldn't turn. Well the video proof both of those wrong. the only reason That car didn't turn was because he didn't turn the stering wheel if you remember right he was 10 laps down because he got wrecked racing for the lead by jokeys teammate,this time they were blocking they wrecked him. logano been wrecking people all year,you don't remember Chicago?
No he got wrecked in a racing deal. The 41 was pushing the 2 (again clear on the video) and that moved the 2 up in to the 20. It was a racing deal. It's Martinsville your going to rub fenders your going to make contact and wrecks are going to happen. But blaming the 22 is a cop out. The 22 didn't wreck Matt. it was a racing deal plain and simple No I don't remember exactly what you are referring to at Chicago. JL is a had nosed racer, I don't have a issue with that. I don't like him my self but he races hard and I don't fault him for that. Early in the year the 22 tried blocking Kevin at Texas, Kevin sent him of in the turn on his bumper. The first thing Joey said was I had to do it because it was his only shot to race for the win, but he didn't fault Kevin for doing what he did because he was blocking and you know when you block it comes with the risk. When you block your outing your fate on some one else's hands. Well at Kansas Matt put his fate in the 22 hands multiple times, the the lady one, Matt ran Joey up the track and in to the wall. If your going to do that then you best be prepared to be moved. Matt set the tone for how he was he was going to be races with that last block and I don't care who that driver is behind him at that point, there isn't a driver in the sport including him self that would not had shoved. His ass off in the the turn. Especially racing for the win with so few laps left. They all would have done it and you know it. |
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Post by tombo on Nov 6, 2015 4:38:37 GMT
if you remember right he was 10 laps down because he got wrecked racing for the lead by jokeys teammate,this time they were blocking they wrecked him. logano been wrecking people all year,you don't remember Chicago?
No he got wrecked in a racing deal. The 41 was pushing the 2 (again clear on the video) and that moved the 2 up in to the 20. It was a racing deal. It's Martinsville your going to rub fenders your going to make contact and wrecks are going to happen. But blaming the 22 is a cop out. The 22 didn't wreck Matt. it was a racing deal plain and simple No I don't remember exactly what you are referring to at Chicago. JL is a had nosed racer, I don't have a issue with that. I don't like him my self but he races hard and I don't fault him for that. Early in the year the 22 tried blocking Kevin at Texas, Kevin sent him of in the turn on his bumper. The first thing Joey said was I had to do it because it was his only shot to race for the win, but he didn't fault Kevin for doing what he did because he was blocking and you know when you block it comes with the risk. When you block your outing your fate on some one else's hands. Well at Kansas Matt put his fate in the 22 hands multiple times, the the lady one, Matt ran Joey up the track and in to the wall. If your going to do that then you best be prepared to be moved. Matt set the tone for how he was he was going to be races with that last block and I don't care who that driver is behind him at that point, there isn't a driver in the sport including him self that would not had shoved. His ass off in the the turn. Especially racing for the win with so few laps left. They all would have done it and you know it. it was not a racing deal,2 and 22 were blocking the front row and joey could have easily passed kenseth at Kansas instead of wrecking him the way he did.. it was the 22 pushed 48 down and into kevin on the restart at Chicago.its been almost a weekly thing for logano to wreck,bump or what ever.
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Post by Greg4fan on Nov 6, 2015 5:21:23 GMT
Blaming Logano for the wreck at Chicago is my favorite Harvick board theory ever. That wreck was 60% Johnson 39.9% Harvick and maybe .1% Logano.
And Joey didn't make Rodney go braindead and leave the car on the track.
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Post by tombo on Nov 6, 2015 6:01:13 GMT
Blaming Logano for the wreck at Chicago is my favorite Harvick board theory ever. That wreck was 60% Johnson 39.9% Harvick and maybe .1% Logano. And Joey didn't make Rodney go braindead and leave the car on the track. theory?
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Post by tombo on Nov 6, 2015 6:03:01 GMT
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Post by jeremy on Nov 6, 2015 11:33:50 GMT
kenseth did what any driver with balls and pride would and should do.a coward would have never done anything and I believed that was what kenseth was before but after he did this it shows hes not afraid of jokey,nascar or anybody. logano 100% wrecked kenseth not just for the win but to take kenseth out of the chase. id expect kevin to do the same if it happens to him ever. they were at Martinsville with 0% chance of anyone getting killed,let alone killed again.i don't recall anyone being killed as a result of payback but I could be wrong. i don't know what world you live in but to say there is a 0% chance of getting killed may be the most ridiculous thing I have heard. when you wreck at Martinsville your hitting at sever angles, there have been more cars scraped from Martinsville than most big tracks. And don't say the man had balls, he was 10 laps down, then he made and still is making excuses as to what happened. If he is man enough to do it, than man up and admit it. But he didn't do it because he knew he was going to have a big penalty coming. So don't talk about him having big balls. At least DP was big enough to admit she went after DG. At the end of the day even Dale Earnhardt knew he wasn't bigger than the sport. This isn't Days of Thunder, this is NASCARS sand box and all the drivers know you don't come out 10 laps down and take some one out....even Dale Earnhardt knew that. You make there lives miserable, run on his bumper for 20 laps, hold him up, screw him on pit road. |
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Post by tombo on Nov 6, 2015 15:50:16 GMT
kenseth hashuge balls to do what he did and I hope my driver in the #4 would do the same,hes threatened it a few times but I don't remember kenseth threatening.he showed up to "out race them" like nascar wants and when they wrecked him this time while they were blocking hell yeah it was time to knock that arrogant punk out and he did just like I used to watch dale sr do to many drivers and they did it back to him too.but that was when nascar was still nascar.
at Martinsville unless someone chokes on a hotdog there is about a zero % chance of being killed......
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