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Post by NateDoggg on Aug 13, 2017 23:03:34 GMT
...I just DVR it now so I can fast forward through the boring sections. Took me about 30 min to get through today's race. The removal of DF + Toyota having 20 hp more than everyone else has made it borderline unwatchable. Been a NASCAR fan for almost 30 years - I've never seen racing this bad in my life. I am very, very close to being finished with the sport.
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Post by tombo on Aug 14, 2017 16:34:26 GMT
I haven't watched a race in months.i turn on the radio for the last few laps.ive been a fans since the early 90's and have never seen scripted manipulated rigged racing like we have the last few years.
there are drivers who for years sucked and now suddenly are the best drivers and rookies doing better than veterans drivers and they all in Toyotas.
until things change im not watching it.
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Post by igothud on Aug 14, 2017 18:42:57 GMT
I haven't watched a race in months.i turn on the radio for the last few laps.ive been a fans since the early 90's and have never seen scripted manipulated rigged racing like we have the last few years. there are drivers who for years sucked and now suddenly are the best drivers and rookies doing better than veterans drivers and they all in Toyotas. until things change im not watching it. I DVR'd the race too... But started watching before it finished. I still believe BK and saying Toyota has a +/- .5 advantage on the field. After stage one... They lined up for stage 2. Suarez with 0 tires ran with BK (2 tires). EJ with 0 tires and fuel caught and passed Harvick (2 tires). How does a car that was running .2 slower than Harvick, load up with fuel, get 0 tires and then proceed to run faster than Harvick? Yea.. it could be setup! It could be that the 77 was setup better for a longer run. If that's the case... 78 has a loose wheel and needs to pit early. If I remember right he was -2 seconds back of the lead in 5 or 6th. He pits... get fresh rubber and then proceed to make up 3 seconds on the field. Remember, the 78 was about +2 on the 2 after the pit stops cycled through. So you say...thats the power of new tires! So back to the 19 and 77!? How in the ______ did those 2 ROOKIES run better on OLD tires than two seasoned vets on 2 new rights... Harvick tried the same strategy and ran 20th for the rest of the race... New tires for Harvick did not translate to 3 seconds on the field. Oh... Anyone else notice that the 11, 18 and 78 had WAY better fuel mileage? Its usually the trade off for better HP. And for all you conspiracy theorist: When did Truex pit for the vibration in stage 2? 4 Laps earlier than Brad. Between the pit cycle and the new tires, Truex made up a total of 3 seconds. BK had a 12.3 on that cycle... and if we give Truex a 11.3... That's one second. So the Tires gave him 2 extra seconds in 4 laps. Looks like Brads right... Toyotas have about .5 when they need it. And I know I am missing a bunch of other variables.. But that swing really caught me funny. |
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Post by NateDoggg on Aug 14, 2017 18:49:13 GMT
I haven't watched a race in months.i turn on the radio for the last few laps.ive been a fans since the early 90's and have never seen scripted manipulated rigged racing like we have the last few years. there are drivers who for years sucked and now suddenly are the best drivers and rookies doing better than veterans drivers and they all in Toyotas. until things change im not watching it. I DVR'd the race too... But started watching before it finished. I still believe BK and saying Toyota has a +/- .5 advantage on the field. After stage one... They lined up for stage 2. Suarez with 0 tires ran with BK (2 tires). EJ with 0 tires and fuel caught and passed Harvick (2 tires). How does a car that was running .2 slower than Harvick, load up with fuel, get 0 tires and then proceed to run faster than Harvick? Yea.. it could be setup! It could be that the 77 was setup better for a longer run. If that's the case... 78 has a loose wheel and needs to pit early. If I remember right he was -2 seconds back of the lead in 5 or 6th. He pits... get fresh rubber and then proceed to make up 3 seconds on the field. Remember, the 78 was about +2 on the 2 after the pit stops cycled through. So you say...thats the power of new tires! So back to the 19 and 77!? How in the ______ did those 2 ROOKIES run better on OLD tires than two seasoned vets on 2 new rights... Harvick tried the same strategy and ran 20th for the rest of the race... New tires for Harvick did not translate to 3 seconds on the field. Oh... Anyone else notice that the 11, 18 and 78 had WAY better fuel mileage? Its usually the trade off for better HP. And for all you conspiracy theorist: When did Truex pit for the vibration in stage 2? 4 Laps earlier than Brad. Between the pit cycle and the new tires, Truex made up a total of 3 seconds. BK had a 12.3 on that cycle... and if we give Truex a 11.3... That's one second. So the Tires gave him 2 extra seconds in 4 laps. Looks like Brads right... Toyotas have about .5 when they need it. And I know I am missing a bunch of other variables.. But that swing really caught me funny. Also, that last "debris" caution when Pouty was leading - that was a huge effort by NASCAR to try and get the crybaby another win. They were hoping everyone would pit and he'd come out the leader. Didn't work that way - but don't think for a second that wasn't an intentional effort to get Poorsport another win. |
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Post by jumbercable4 on Aug 14, 2017 22:01:55 GMT
Steve O Donnel admitted to putting the rumors out there of which Brad mentioned this past weekend. How ever he said no one is sand bagging. Seems to me NASCAR was getting a lot of heat from drivers and maybe car owners so they had to do something to protect the Toyota camp. Tired of this shit. Racing sucks!
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Post by tombo on Aug 18, 2017 15:53:56 GMT
the truck race the other night is a prime example of rigged racing.............
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